Structure Tech Home Inspections
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To watch a video version of this podcast, click here: https://youtu.be/WxpLRqe6LDk In this episode, Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murry are joined by Dillon Winiecki of Protect Property Inspections in Arizona to discuss the growing demand for more detailed new-construction inspections. Dillon shares his journey from firefighter to home inspector, the…
The average home inspection in Minnesota costs $438. That figure comes from our own survey of 83 Minnesota home inspection companies, conducted in the fall of 2024 — not a national average borrowed from somewhere else. Most buyers pay somewhere between $400 and $800, depending on two things: how big…
I recently had a friend ask me why his fireplace is stinky in the summer. If it smells like a dead carcass, you're dealing with a dead carcass. You're welcome. But let's assume it smells like soot. That's the more common cause of a stinky fireplace. Winter = no…
Short answer: A home inspector may identify something that appears to be mold, but determining the presence of mold isn't required by home inspection standards. At Structure Tech, if we see any suspicious growth, we'll let you know. If you want a dedicated mold investigation with sampling and lab analysis,…
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To watch a video version of this podcast, click here: https://youtu.be/1qYegm0FXug In this episode, Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murry are joined by Andrew Harshman of AJF Inspections in Arizona to discuss builder workmanship inspections and the growing demand for detailed inspections of new construction homes. They explore Arizona’s workmanship standards…
When it comes to kitchen hood fans, more properly known as a ducted kitchen range hood, bigger is better. At least that's what most people think. I won't discuss this here, but you can listen to me and Tessa discuss it on our podcast: Kitchen Hood Fans: Design, CFMs, Makeup…
To watch a video version of this podcast, click here: https://youtu.be/-Tsv9suvZwc In this episode, Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murry discuss kitchen hood fans and exhaust ventilation, focusing on CFM, hood design, ductwork, makeup air, and combustion safety. They explore common ventilation problems found during inspections, explain how excessive exhaust can…
How do you train to be a home inspector? I blogged on this in 2011, 2016, and 2020. And it's time for another update, because this is one of the most common questions I get as a home inspection company owner. All of this advice is tailored for someone in…
To watch a video version of this podcast, click here: https://youtu.be/vwDEHoyPgG4 In this episode, Reuben Saltzman, Tessa Murry, and Eric Houseman share some of the most memorable and unusual service inquiries they've encountered in the home inspection industry. From clients complaining about issues already documented in the inspection report to hidden…
I get a lot of questions about what it takes to get started in the home inspection profession, and I've come to realize the answers depend on the career path someone is looking for. I've written on this topic many times, and my assumption has always been that someone wants…
To watch a video version of this podcast, click here: https://youtu.be/FFgBErKxCHs In this episode, Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murry tackle a question that's becoming increasingly common in the home inspection industry: Should home inspectors report cosmetic defects in new construction homes? From nail pops and scuff marks to drywall imperfections,…
To watch a video version of this podcast, click here: https://youtu.be/NZSMT78oKmQ In this episode, Reuben Saltzman, Tessa Murry, and Eric Houseman delve into the craziest service inquiries and complaints home inspectors face, emphasizing the importance of communication, empathy, and proper process. They share real stories, lessons learned, and strategies…
Just as there is no such thing as licensing for home inspectors in Minnesota, there's also no such thing as licensing for Heating, Ventilation, and Air Conditioning (HVAC) contractors. And there never has been. At least, not at the state level. Bonding is required While we don't have licensing in…
Home Inspection Service Area Where Does Structure Tech Perform Home Inspections? Structure Tech performs home inspections throughout the Twin Cities metro area, much of Southern Minnesota, and Western Wisconsin. With inspectors located across the region, we inspect thousands of homes every year in communities large and small. Whether you're buying…
Temporary Weekend Hours June 20 – August 16, 2026 We're temporarily operating with adjusted weekend coverage from June 20 through August 16, 2026. Need to schedule an inspection? Schedule Now Our weekday office hours remain unchanged: Monday–Friday: 8 AM–5 PM Inspection appointments will continue as scheduled. These temporary changes only…
One of the most common window and door issues that come up during a home inspection is fogged glass, also known as a broken seal. But they're not the same thing: a failed seal can cause fogged glass, but there is no visible evidence of a failed seal in the…
To watch a video version of this podcast, click here: https://youtu.be/hhrDUvkhtqk In this episode, Ruben and Tessa dive into the nuanced world of home inspection reporting, exploring when and how to report safety issues versus minor defects, and how overreporting can sometimes do more harm than good. They discuss the importance…
We were recently asked if we could provide THC residue testing; the short answer is no. We're a one-stop shop (cliché term, I know) for over 99% of homebuyer needs, but the last 1% gets spread very thin and becomes highly specialized. We stick to the stuff we can be…
To watch a video version of this podcast, click here: https://youtu.be/-8l0ZgYchPs In this episode, Ruben and Tessa dive into common homeowner misconceptions, from the importance of home inspections on new builds to the realities of gutter guards and the complexities of HVAC sizing. Whether you're a homeowner, buyer, or just…
If you're buying a condo, should you get a home inspection? I'm a home inspector, so of course I'm going to tell you yes. But what can really go wrong at a condo? If you need convincing, check out my post on condo inspections, featuring 40 photos of things you'd…
To watch a video version of this podcast, click here: https://youtu.be/oCnCRv-xTDM Click the link to watch Reuben ride his new toy: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DYhiBQTBc-P/?igsh=M2xwdDdmNnpwN3Rk In this episode, Reuben Saltzman, Tessa Murry, and guest Eric Hausman explore the impact of AI on home inspections, client expectations, and innovative projects like vehicle branding. They…
Siding stains like those shown below are common in Minnesota. This usually happens to homes with vinyl, hardboard, or wood siding. The stains on the siding are the result of water inside the walls. When water runs through the wood wall sheathing, it picks up tannins in the wood and…
If you're selling a home in Minnesota, odds are the buyers will order a radon test. We do radon tests at over half of our home inspections; the exact number was 55% in 2025. To help prevent delays, frustration, and suspicion, it's important to follow the rules for radon testing.…
To watch a video version of this podcast, click here: https://youtu.be/iSroxH8taxY In this episode, we explore the recent challenges and innovations at Spectora, including the controversial Fixel rollout, AI advancements, and the company's future direction. Guest Peter Osberg shares insights on navigating industry changes, customer engagement, and technological breakthroughs that are…
There are two major associations for home inspectors: The American Society of Home Inspectors (ASHI), and the International Association of Certified Home Inspectors (InterNACHI). If you're going to hire a home inspector, should they be a member of one of these organizations? And if so, which one? First, consider licensing…
To watch a video version of this podcast, click here: https://youtu.be/BRRmNh1LHZA In this episode, Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murry welcome Chris Hughes from the Energy Conservatory to discuss HVAC innovations, building science, and practical solutions for improving home performance. Learn how emerging technologies like the TrueFlow Grid are reshaping industry…
The folks at Thermal Master sent me their latest mobile phone infrared camera, the P4. This is a direct competitor to the FLIR ONE Pro camera, so I got my hands on one of those, and I'm putting 'em up against each other. The Basics They're both small cameras…
Gas fireplaces are great. They provide heat and ambiance, and they're often the focal point of a room. We have them in a large percentage of new Minnesota homes, and many homeowners have gas fireplace inserts installed in their existing wood-burning fireplaces because of the convenience factor; it's so much…
It's starting to feel like spring, so it's a good time to share our Spring Checklist. I've shared a fall maintenance checklist forever because there's a ton of stuff for Minnesota homeowners to do before winter. For spring, however, we get to take it easy. Mostly, just enjoy the weather.…
For information about Tessa's upcoming presentation for MAC ASHI on May 2nd, visit: https://www.macashi.org/calendar/274 To watch a video version of this podcast, click here: https://youtu.be/KhdZxrBD9mI In this episode, Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murry catch up on recent projects, share insights on home inspection practices, and discuss Spectora's sale and its…
How long does a home inspection take? How tall is a tree? Ha ha. Of course, the answer is "it depends". We typically book a four-hour time slot for the home inspection, and this works well most of the time. However, many variables affect how long a home inspection takes.…
Today, I'm pulling back the curtain to share a major influence on what has made us the home inspection company we are today. It's our previous insurance company. Home Inspectors are a paranoid bunch Back in 2004, when I first started learning how to do home inspections on my own,…
If I were a genie, I'd stop you right there and tell you that's one of your three questions. But I'm not, and we offer unlimited questions: before, during, and after the home inspection. We reach out to our clients before every inspection to see if they have any questions…
To watch a video version of this podcast, click here: https://youtu.be/U0ALmS9vUC0 In this episode, Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murry talk with Sophie Ashley of Energy Vanguard about her journey from hands‑on carpentry and post‑Katrina rebuilding work to becoming an HVAC designer for high‑performance homes. Sophie shares how her field experience…
Here at Structure Tech, we deliver our inspection reports within 24 hours of the inspection's completion. This is a fairly standard delivery time for most home inspection companies. I just reviewed the last 10 home inspections we delivered, and the fastest delivery time was 3 hours, while the slowest was…
To watch a video version of this podcast, click here: https://youtu.be/eK-WIS7inMU In this episode, Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murry talk with Steve Rogers, President of The Energy Conservatory (TEC), about the science behind home performance and why so many HVAC systems fall short of expectations. Steve shares TEC’s journey from…
A ground-fault circuit-interrupter (GFCI) is a life-safety device designed to help prevent electrocution. They've been around for over 50 years, and they're required all over the place in new construction homes. Here's a partial list of places where receptacles must be protected by a GFCI device: Bathrooms Garages and accessory…
To watch a video version of this podcast, click here: https://youtu.be/4LmP_3WOezg In this episode, Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murry welcome Noah Gavik from Brothers Underground to discuss the impact of private equity on the home service industry. They explore the benefits, challenges, and ethical considerations of private equity ownership, as…
As a type 3 on the Enneagram, I want my home inspection company to do everything and be everything to everyone. But of course, that's impossible. There are limits to every home inspection, and today I'll cover what's excluded from home inspection standards of practice. To be clear, these aren't…
Here at Structure Tech, we do things a bit differently from other Minnesota home inspectors. When you get a home inspection with us, you're not getting a commodity: you're getting the best inspection money can buy. The Basics The basic stuff that's included in a home inspection from anybody, anywhere,…
To watch a video version of this podcast, click here: https://youtu.be/0US0bHGynQo In this episode, Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murry once again welcome Structure Tech’s Service Manager, Eric Houseman, for a deep dive into one of the most debated topics in home inspections: flashing and exterior water management. Prompted by an…
After years of use, gas fireplaces often develop a cloudy white haze on the glass. This white haze makes the flames difficult to see, ruins any potential illusion that you're looking at a real fireplace, and really kills the mood. Ok, maybe that's dramatic, but it is annoying. The good…
To watch a video version of this podcast, click here: https://youtu.be/c9hch5yyc-U In this episode, Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murry are joined by Structure Tech’s Services Manager, Eric Houseman, for a wild home‑inspection story that starts with a simple missing bath‑fan termination and snowballs into a major discovery. What begins as…
To fix a slow drain at a bathroom sink, don't mess with acids that you pour down your sink. They can damage the pipes, and they don't always work. Instead, get yourself a zip drain cleaning tool, like the one shown below. Menards currently has them on sale for $1.39.…
One of the must-have home inspection tools everyone on my team uses is a combustible gas detector. Also known as a gas sniffer. We use these to locate suspected gas leaks and combustion gas leaks. My favorite one has been the TIF8900 for a long time, but this model isn't…
To watch a video version of this podcast, click here: https://youtu.be/GcQUDCQAgsI In this episode, Reuben Saltzman speaks with film producer George Siegal, known for his documentary Built to Last, Buyer Beware. They explore the hidden risks of home buying, with a focus on insurance coverage, building codes, and purchasing in…
Unvented gas space heaters aren't legal in Minnesota, but that doesn't keep people from installing them. Today, I'll explain what they are, why I don't like them, and why retailers sell them even though they're not legal. What is an unvented gas space heater? Almost all gas appliances require venting…
To watch a video version of this podcast, click here: https://youtu.be/eVsiOW_Ynig In today’s episode, Reuben and Tessa reflect on their holiday experiences and catch up on recent home projects, sharing practical insights on everything from snowblowers to indoor air quality concerns. They dive deeper into the complexities of health issues…
We share plenty of egregious defects found on home inspections, but we also share the good stuff, usually on Fridays. May these images inspire you, warm your heart, and bring peace on earth. Nice filter cover. If you want to make it especially easy to know the size of your…
It's that time of year again! Please enjoy our favorite home inspection photos from the past year. If you like this stuff, please follow our Facebook and Instagram pages. Bad ledgerboard - this is an unsafe deck with a badly rotated ledgerboard. Let's try that again - there was clearly a fire…
Ice dams are literally dams of ice that form on roofs and cause water to back up. Ice dams form when the snow that touches the roof melts, and then that water freezes again before running off the roof. This usually happens at the edges of roofs, but not always.…
Home energy monitors calm me down. I get whipped up about how much electricity my Christmas lights use. How much money it costs me when my kids leave lights on. The money I'm spending for an under-sink water heater! But when I use a home energy monitor to track how…
To watch a video version of this podcast, click here: https://youtu.be/btTlpjM1w2c In this episode, Reuben and Tessa explore practical smart home upgrades and energy-saving tools. They share hands-on experiences with infrared cameras, energy monitoring devices, and water leak prevention systems. The discussion also touches on the challenges of managing multiple…
Water leaks are disruptive and expensive; ask me how I know. "Reuben, pray tell, how do you know?" Thanks for asking! My last water episode happened in 2021, when my under-sink water heater sprang a leak after just a couple of years. It ruined the room below, and it took…
To watch a video version of this podcast, click here: https://youtu.be/nu1GoDS3z-E In this episode of the Structure Talk podcast, hosts Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murry welcome Nate Mielke, a general contractor and remodeler. They discuss Nate's journey in the construction industry, the differences between design-build and general contracting, and the…
To watch a video version of this podcast, click here: https://youtu.be/MpJELehhLbc In this episode of the Structure Talk podcast, hosts Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murry sit down with Rob Howard, founder of Howard Building Science, to explore how he’s tackling one of the biggest challenges in housing today: building affordable,…
Today I'm reviewing another infrared camera that plugs into your smartphone. This one is the TOPDON TC002C Duo Thermal Camera, but I'll call it the TOPDON for short. They call it a Duo because it works with both Android and iOS USB-C devices. The Basics This camera is small,…
To watch a video version of this podcast, click here: https://youtu.be/gcF3wVu0630 In this episode, Tessa Murry and Reuben Saltzman welcome Isaac Scott, a builder from Louisiana, to discuss his company, Clare Homes, and the innovative building practices they employ. Isaac shares his journey from working in the construction industry to…
Should home inspectors walk through insulated attics to fully inspect the attic spaces? I say no. This topic was recently discussed in an online forum for home inspectors, and I was surprised by the number of chest-pounding home inspectors who are willing to trample through the insulation in an attic…
To watch a video version of this podcast, click here: https://youtu.be/6GZOqskHBwU In this episode of the Structure Talk podcast, hosts Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murry discuss Halloween chaos and a complex home inspection that pushed the limits of Structure Tech’s expertise. Reuben shares a detailed story about troubleshooting a heating…
I was recently emailed a question about smoke alarm locations; exactly where do they need to be installed? In the bedrooms? Outside of the bedrooms? Which levels? There are two ways to answer this question: what meets code, and what's safe. If we're talking about what meets code, it gets…
To watch a video version of this podcast, click here: https://youtu.be/vi0mEQemsck In this episode of the Structure Talk podcast, hosts Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murry sit down with Gene Myers, founder and CEO of Thrive Home Builders in Denver, Colorado. Gene shares his journey from land developer to one of…
There's a lot of confusion in real estate over what constitutes an intrusive inspection or intrusive testing. Today, I'll set the record straight on the definition of an intrusive inspection and discuss several possible scenarios. But first, let's take a quick step back to fully understand what I'm talking about.…
To watch a video version of this podcast, click here: https://youtu.be/qaISUXRUJrQ In this episode of the Structure Talk podcast, hosts Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murry welcome Sam Rashkin, former Chief Architect for the U.S. Department of Energy’s Building Technologies Office and creator of the Energy Star for Homes and Zero…
Pre-Listing Consultation Thinking of selling your home but not looking for a full inspection? Our Pre-Listing Consultation is designed to give homeowners an affordable, no-pressure way to identify key issues before putting their property on the market. You’ll accompany the inspector as they point out visible issues and answer your questions in real time. No written…
One of the biggest challenges home sellers face is unexpected problems that arise during the home inspection. Home sellers can eliminate all of these surprises with pre-listing inspections. Knowledge is power, and pre-listing inspections put that power in the seller's hands by eliminating surprises. THESE ARE NOT TRUTH-IN-HOUSING EVALUATIONS…
Fall is officially here, so it's time to get your house ready for winter. We've compiled a comprehensive list of fall home maintenance items to help you remember everything you’re supposed to do as a Minnesota homeowner. I'm also including a podcast episode where we discuss most of the stuff…
To watch a video version of this podcast, click here: https://youtu.be/k8U1KBX8ObE In this episode of the Structure Talk podcast, hosts Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murry catch up on their recent activities, including conferences focused on building science and home inspection. They discuss the importance of integrating building science into home inspections,…
I recently had another home inspection company owner ask me what an ideal home inspection report should look like. I gave him a fairly lengthy answer via text message, but I think this is a great question that deserves an even more detailed explanation. I've been in the home inspection…
To watch a video version of this podcast, click here: https://youtu.be/5yOQW18UmVA In this episode, Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murry welcome Matthew Eickman from Abra Kadabra Pest Control to discuss the intersection of pest control and home inspections. They explore the importance of community in business growth, the challenges of misidentification…
You read the headline correctly. If you have a low level of carbon monoxide in your home, it'll never set off your carbon monoxide alarm, and this is by design. Carbon monoxide (CO) alarms keep people from dying; they don't eliminate all health risks. Underwriters Laboratory standard UL2034 requires carbon…
Everyone knows the standard convention for plumbing fixtures: left is hot, right is cold. It's a standard. This applies to two-handle faucets as well as single-handle faucets. But now we have this new crop of single-handle kitchen faucets without a right and left; you just have forward and backward. What's…
To watch a video version of this podcast, click here: https://youtu.be/cYcD91eX5rQ In this episode, Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murry engage with Paul Barraza, a seasoned home inspector from Northern California. They discuss the nuances of home inspections, including energy efficiency, wildfire preparedness, and earthquake safety. Paul shares his journey into…
There are several things home inspectors point out to potential home buyers that should not come as a surprise during the home inspection. If home buyers took a little extra time to look for this stuff themselves, they could avoid a lot of nasty surprises. 1. Big Roof Problems…
To watch a video version of this podcast, click here: https://youtu.be/iRw-dmE8GpA In this episode of the Structure Talk podcast, hosts Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murry welcome guests Brad Lowery and Matt Brading to discuss their experiences in the home inspection industry, the importance of building science, and the role of…
When a home inspector identifies backdrafting at a water heater, what steps should be taken to address it? It depends. Was it really backdrafting? First, you need to find out if the home inspector identified backdrafting or signs of backdrafting. These are two very different things. The most notorious sign…
I get this question a lot, and the truth is, there’s no single “biggest” red flag that applies to every house. Every property is unique, and what’s catastrophic in one home might be minor in another. That said, if I had to pick the number-one deal-breaker I see, it would…
As a home inspector, I'm asked the same question over and over: “What’s the thing you find most often?” People expect a dramatic answer, something like “a crumbling foundation” or “mold lurking behind every wall.” The truth is a little less exciting, but a lot more important: water issues. Water is a…
If your insurance company has asked for a 4-point inspection, you might be wondering what it is, why it’s needed, and how much it costs. Let’s break it down. What’s a 4-Point Inspection? A 4-point inspection is focused on four main systems in a home: Roof - age, condition, and signs of…
To watch a video version of this podcast, click here: https://youtu.be/C6MC7V08nS4 In this episode of the Structure Talk podcast, hosts Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murry discuss various topics related to home inspection, including the impact of AI on the industry, personal anecdotes about gutter cleaning, and a detailed case study…
After almost eight years, one of my favorite flashlight models has been upgraded. The Fenix TK35 instantly became my favorite flashlight back in 2011, and I loved the upgraded version that came out in 2017, called the TK35UE. This year, they revamped the flashlight again with the TK35R. I wasted…
Thanks to Moore's Law, infrared cameras keep getting better and less expensive. The folks at Thermal Master are getting into the handheld infrared camera game, and they sent me a Thor001 camera to check out, which is available for $599. They also offer a Thor002, which has some minor differences…
To watch a video version of this podcast, click here: https://youtu.be/hBY-5QroZsQ In this episode, Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murry explore a range of topics, including air quality concerns in Minnesota, the evolving role of AI in the home inspection industry, and a detailed case study involving a homeowner's struggles with…
To watch a video version of this podcast, click here: https://youtu.be/NJ0uDa2aL7w In this episode of the Structure Talk podcast, hosts Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murry explore the essential fixes homeowners should tackle before a home inspection. They share practical tips and personal stories about common issues like gutter maintenance and…
If you're selling your house, you're probably a little worried about the home inspection. Heck, I'm a home inspector and an extremely diligent and knowledgeable homeowner... but I still get worried about the home inspection when I sell a home. To help prevent hiccups during the home inspection, there are…
To watch a video version of this podcast, click here: https://youtu.be/iIWheUyrBvk In this episode of the Structure Talk podcast, hosts Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murry discuss their summer adventures and dive into the complexities of condo inspections. They share personal anecdotes about water heater issues and the importance of understanding…
I replaced my leaking powervent water heater in November of 2020, and my new one has already started leaking. I blame the water here in Maple Grove. When I inspected the anode rod about six months ago, I found it was entirely gone. How long had it been gone for?…
A true mark of professionalism for any home inspector or home service technician is the ability to enter and exit an attic without leaving any evidence. This requires finesse and diligence, and it's something that can be learned over time; however, this video should accelerate the learning curve. Key points:…
The separation between a garage and a house is commonly referred to as a firewall, but that's not accurate. I hear the term firewall thrown around a lot, and it's always used incorrectly when it comes to residential construction. If you turn to the Uniform Building Code, you can find the…
To watch a video version of this podcast, click here: https://youtu.be/noKM0Ijpafg In this episode, Reuben and Tessa discuss various topics related to home inspections, including the impact of weather on home maintenance, the integration of AI in home inspections, and the importance of building relationships with team members. They share…
A lot of us home inspectors need to calm down when it comes to reporting the length of a clothes dryer duct. While the code book says the maximum developed length of a dryer duct is 35', that's only part of the story. What's a dryer duct? A dryer…
If you get a home inspection in Minneapolis, Saint Paul, or the surrounding areas, you'll probably have at least one of these items show up on your report. Don't be surprised by this; it's all common and fixable. Water Management Problems Wet and moldy basements are usually caused by…
To watch a video version of this podcast, click here: https://youtu.be/LzP_zb7BsGQ In this episode, Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murry discuss various common home inspection issues, focusing on the top five problems that often arise in older homes. They delve into the importance of water management, electrical safety, chimney maintenance, gas…
I've worked for Structure Tech since 1997, and during this time, I've developed some strong opinions about who should attend a home inspection and who shouldn't. Today, I'll discuss buyers, sellers, agents on both sides, and all of the extra people like family, friends, kids, coworkers, and contractors. The…
We've added a new home inspection tool to our arsenal, called the Judgy Finger. Check it out.
We Inspect Thousands of Homes Every Year
To watch a video version of this podcast, click here: https://youtu.be/Skx7vjdsdo8 In this episode, Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murry discuss the dynamics of home inspection attendance, exploring who should be present during inspections, the roles of buyers and agents, and the impact of these interactions on the inspection process. They…
May is Deck Safety Month, so it's a good time to discuss deck inspections. The best way to know if your deck is safe is to have it professionally inspected. If you're not keen on hiring a home inspector or carpenter to inspect your deck professionally, you can still inspect…
To watch a video version of this podcast, click here: https://youtu.be/B4lgieKGvtI In this episode of the Structure Talk Podcast, hosts Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murry welcome back Noah Gavic from Brothers Underground to discuss various sewer types and cleaning techniques. Noah shares insights on the most common pipe types, including…
To watch a video version of this podcast, click here: https://youtu.be/jwVDbI86XKs In this episode of the Structure Talk Podcast, hosts Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murry share personal updates, including recent travels and experiences in different climates. They discuss the challenges of home inspections, particularly regarding insurance and aging roofs. The…
If you drive through any neighborhood in Minneapolis or Saint Paul, you'll find a handful of gas vents with missing or improper vent caps. These improper caps all need to go. The most serious problem with this style of vent cap is that it can collapse and block the…
You found the house. You booked the inspection. You got the report. Now what? If your first reaction was, "This list is a mile long," you’re not alone. Feeling overwhelmed is completely normal. At Structure Tech, we see it all the time: good homes paired with inspection reports that look…
I've already ranted and complained about clothes dryers venting through the roof. It's a dumb place to run your dryer duct, but it happens all the time, especially in new construction homes. The main problem is that dryer terminals need to be regularly cleaned, and most homeowners aren't going to…
To watch a video version of this podcast, click here: https://youtu.be/2cNHgOFCes0 In this episode of the Structure Talk podcast, hosts Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murry engage with listener questions, discuss the growth of their inspection team, and share insights into their training process. They also highlight an upcoming conference for…
I get a lot of training questions from aspiring home inspectors about how to get into this business and how to get trained. I have some advice for people who don't get hired by a company with an established training process, but first, I'd like to share our internal process…
To watch a video version of this podcast, click here: https://youtu.be/MVcLWet9gqw In this episode of the Structure Talk Podcast, hosts Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murry discuss various topics related to home inspection, including the latest trends in home inspection tools, a Q&A session addressing homeowner concerns, and the importance of…
As home inspectors, we often find stained ceilings around bathroom exhaust fans. We also find a lot of stains in the attic where the bathroom exhaust fan terminates at the roof. While the knee-jerk reaction for most homeowners is to call a roofer when a stain shows up on their…
In this episode of the Structure Talk podcast, hosts Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murry welcome Noah Gavic from Brothers Underground. The conversation delves into Noah's extensive background in plumbing, the various techniques used in sewer line repair, and the challenges faced in the industry. Noah shares insights on the importance…
We find loose outlets at most home inspections. The fix is usually straightforward; remove the cover plate, tighten the screws, and replace the cover plate. Boom, you're done. But not always. If the electrical box is recessed into the wall, and tons of them are, this might not work.…
In this episode, Reuben and Tessa discuss various homeowner questions, focusing on health effects related to sleep deprivation, the intricacies of high-efficiency furnaces, crawl space concerns, and the importance of proper ventilation and insulation. They emphasize the need for safety in home systems, particularly regarding carbon monoxide risks, and explore…
I recently did a presentation for Career Day at my daughter's middle school, and to make sure I kept their attention, I decided to share some of my favorite toilet photos. I mean c'mon, who doesn't like potty humor?! So here goes. Painted toilet. I can't make this up.…
This podcast contains a handful of visuals that we thought would be helpful, so we've published a video version of this podcast at https://youtu.be/NZ2qp06oET8. The Testo 605i that Mark mentioned can be found at https://amzn.to/41TYFjs To find the chart that Mark referenced, go to https://efficientcomfort.net/charts/. We're also including four screenshots that Mark shared…
In this new episode, our hosts Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murry discuss the intricate relationship between energy efficiency and durability in home construction. They explore how increasing energy efficiency through insulation and air sealing can lead to potential moisture issues and reduced durability if not appropriately managed. The conversation emphasizes…
Failed sump pumps lead to flooded basements. While it's important to have a backup plan in place for a failed sump pump, it's also a good idea to test your sump pump in the spring. Today I'll show you how. You need access Most sump baskets have a plastic…
In this episode, Reuben and Tessa discuss the transition into spring, personal life updates, and mold remediation challenges. Tessa shares her firsthand experience with mold issues in her boyfriend's apartment, while Reuben talks about his HVAC problems and the importance of air quality. They also touch on industry trends in…
Most old houses in Minneapolis and Saint Paul have masonry chimneys. Some of them serve wood-burning fireplaces, but many of them only serve as a chaseway for a gas appliance vent. When these chimneys need service or repair, it gets surprisingly expensive. The good news is that there's an alternative…
In this episode of the Structure Talk podcast, Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murry welcome Michael Simpson, a geotechnical engineer, who shares insights into forensic engineering, the impact of water management on foundations, and the differences between serviceability and safety in structural integrity. The conversation emphasizes the need for proper assessment…
You just had your roof covering replaced, and you paid a permit fee to the city to have your roof inspected. What exactly does the city do for this fee? It's probably a quick check from the ground and a review of photos taken by the roofing contractor. Municipal…
This training video shows how to use a moisture meter, both in pin probe mode and scan mode. The moisture meter I used for this video is a 2nd-generation Protimeter Surveymaster. The newest version of this moisture meter can be found here: https://amzn.to/42J0UYy
A powervent water heater uses a fan to get the exhaust gases out of the home. They're great because there's almost zero possibility of backdrafting, a common problem with natural draft water heaters. Most powervent water heaters use a 3-inch PVC pipe to get the exhaust gas out of the…
Click this link to learn more about the Business Mastery Class for Solo Inspectors: https://events.iebcoaching.com/BusinessMasteryforSoloInspectors25 In this episode, Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murry welcome Philippe Heller, a seasoned San Diego home inspector. Philippe shares his journey from corporate life to running a successful home inspection business, emphasizing fire safety in…
If you have a problem with frost in your attic, you're not alone. With the recent cold snap of weather here in Minnesota, I've talked to many contractors who are dealing with frost in their clients homes. Nobody knows or cares about the frost until it gets warm, like last…
Click this link to learn more about the Business Mastery Class for Solo Inspectors: https://events.iebcoaching.com/BusinessMasteryforSoloInspectors25 In this episode, Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murry discuss the challenges and experiences of home inspection with Miki Mertz, a pioneer female home inspector. They explore the unique advantages and challenges faced by women in…
Joist hangers are metal brackets that support deck joists. It's almost impossible to build a deck without them, and there is a ton of stuff that can go wrong with the installation. Today, I'll cover the most common defects we find as home inspectors. Simpson Strong-Tie® is the largest manufacturer…
In this episode of the Structure Talk podcast, hosts Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murray interview Mark Cramer, a seasoned home inspector from Florida. They discuss Mark's journey into home inspections, the evolution of training in the field, and the challenges modern inspectors face. They also cover regional differences in home…
Is your attic free of frost? Are your ducts dutifully connected in the attic? Is there anything shocking in your electric panel? Is your sump system up to snuff? Do you heed your HRV's homeowner guidelines? Do you have an HRV?? Most homeowners are fuzzy on these details. While it's easy…
In this episode of the Structure Talk podcast, Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murry welcome Charles Buell, a veteran in the home inspection community. They discuss Charles's journey into home inspection, the importance of accurate information in the industry, and the unique challenges posed by the marine climate in Seattle. The…
In this episode, Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murry welcome Bryan Standley from Inspect KC to discuss the unique challenges of home inspections in Kansas City. They explore Bryan's journey into the field, the lack of state licensing and building codes, and the implications for home inspectors and buyers. The conversation…
In this episode of the Structure Talk podcast, hosts Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murry welcome Will Misegades from Redfish Inspections in Houston, Texas. They discuss the unique challenges of home inspections in hot and humid climates, the merger of Redfish Inspections with Magnolia Home Inspections, and the importance of a…
Happy New Year! I'm delighted to share our Top 20 Home Inspection Photos. I've been compiling our top photos of the year since 2011, meticulously pouring over all of the crowd-favorites from our Facebook and Instagram pages. Enjoy! Attic time-out chair - child behavior problems plummeted after moving the time-out chair to the…
In this episode of the Structure Talk podcast, hosts Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murry welcome back Mike Casey to discuss the unique challenges and building practices in hot and dry climates, particularly in Southern California. The conversation covers various topics including housing stock, building science issues, post-tension slabs, plumbing materials,…
The average home inspection fee in Minnesota is $438. This is based on a price survey of all the home inspectors we could find in Minnesota. We conducted this survey during the fall and winter of 2024. Who are these Minnesota home inspectors? Because there is no licensing…
In this episode of the Structure Talk podcast, hosts Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murry joined with RK Bob Brown, an expert in foundation repair, who shares insights from his extensive experience in the industry. He discusses the common pitfalls homeowners face when dealing with foundation issues, the importance of hiring…
This is a re-blog from two years ago with more details. I continue to get emails and messages from home inspectors and homeowners with questions about high-efficiency furnace venting details, which makes me realize I have a bunch of other stuff that still ought to be covered. High-efficiency furnaces use…
In this episode of the Structure Talk podcast, hosts Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murry discuss personal health changes related to diet and cholesterol management, followed by a deep dive into water heater maintenance, specifically focusing on the importance of anode rods. They share personal experiences and insights on the effectiveness…
Water heater manufacturers tell you to remove and inspect the anode rod yearly, but seriously, who does this? Nobody! An anode rod is big stick of aluminum, magnesium, or zinc that comes with your water heater. It's there to prevent the tank from corroding away. The less noble metal corrodes,…
In this episode of Structure Talk, Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murry welcome Jake McAlpine from the Energy Conservatory. They discuss Jake's journey from the music industry to building science, the importance of energy efficiency, and the role of the Energy Conservatory in advancing building standards. The conversation delves into the…
While I was teaching about chimney inspections to a group of home inspectors in Maryland last week, one of the inspectors in the audience asked me a technical question. Do you need a video camera to perform a Level II chimney inspection? The short answer is yes. To be more…
The American Society of Home Inspectors (ASHI) has proposed a new Standard of Practice (SOP) for home inspections. I strongly oppose many of the changes, and I urge all ASHI members to read the standards and voice their opinion. Here are the key details: The existing SOP was written in…
In this episode, Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murry discuss the recent changes to the ASHI standards of practice for home inspectors with guest Jim Katen. They explore the implications of these changes, the necessity for updates, and the potential impact on home inspection reports and client service. The conversation emphasizes…
Never skip the home inspection, even if the house is brand new. I don't care what the builder tells you; you need a home inspection. There's too much at stake, too much that can go wrong, and too much gets missed with municipal inspections. I'm not knocking municipal (city/county/AHJ) inspectors;…
If you're like me, you were raised to never (EVER!) turn on a garbage disposer without first running water down the sink. Just a few seconds of this dastardly deed could be enough to overheat and fry the motor. But is there really any truth in this? What the…
In this episode, Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murry discuss the nuances of home inspections, focusing on the balance between technical reporting and addressing homeowner concerns. They explore the evolution of infrared technology, the importance of understanding client needs, and the standards for reporting issues during inspections. The conversation emphasizes the…
I'm frequently asked about nasty-looking vertical cracks in wood deck posts. Is this a problem? Is the deck going to fail? How big of a crack is too big of a crack? It's called Checking The appropriate term for these so-called cracks is "checking". This happens when big wood timbers…
In this conversation, Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murry discuss the importance of proper HVAC sizing and the upcoming refrigerant changes that will affect the industry. They are joined by Robin Johnson from High Road Heating and Air, who shares insights on the significance of manual J calculations for HVAC systems,…
It's the best time of year to share these photos. Be warned: some of these have a high creep factor. Enjoy? Shh... don't wake the sleeping bat. In the bedroom. Don't worry about waking this one. It's a bit crispy. BHAS = Big, Hairy, Audacious Spider. This is a…
In this episode, Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murray discuss the growing trend of four-point inspections in Minnesota with guests Eric Houseman and John Bolton. They explore the history and origin of four-point inspections, particularly in Florida, and the challenges homeowners face in securing insurance. The conversation delves into the implications…
The folks at Thermal Master sent me a new infrared camera to test out. Dubbed the world's second-smallest infrared camera, it's called the Thermal Master P2. If you're curious, I also reviewed the world's smallest, the InfiRay P2 Pro. The Basics This camera is tiny, and it works through…
In this episode of Structure Talk, Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murray discuss the impact of natural disasters on communities, particularly in light of recent storms. They are joined by Tim Hammack, co-owner of Paul Bunyan Plumbing, who focused on water heater maintenance. The discussion covers personal experiences with water heaters,…
In this episode of Structure Talk, hosts Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murry welcome Tim Hammack from Paul Bunyan Plumbing to discuss the plumbing industry, focusing on tankless water heaters. Tim shares his journey into plumbing, the benefits of tankless systems, and the importance of proper installation and maintenance. The conversation…
I installed a new 2.5-gallon point-of-use water heater under my kitchen sink exactly one year ago. My old one failed after less than three years, and it wasn't covered under warranty because I was supposed to inspect the sacrificial anode rod every year, and replace it at least every two years. My…
In this episode of the Structure Talk podcast, the hosts welcome special guest Mike Casey, an experienced home inspector and educator. The conversation focuses on the topics of grounding and bonding in electrical systems. Mike explains that grounding connects the system to the Earth, maintaining a reference of 120 volts…
Many years ago, one of the home inspectors in my company met with an electrician to discuss having him teach at an upcoming home inspector meeting. The electrician expressed some hesitation about teaching a class for home inspectors because he was under the impression that home inspectors aren't allowed to…
In this episode of the Structure Talk podcast, Ruben Saltzman and Tessa Murry are joined by Michael Bartus. They discuss the recent legal settlement involving the National Association of Realtors and its impact on the real estate industry. The conversation explores the challenges of navigating the new regulations and provides…
In this episode of the Structure Talk podcast, Ruben Saltzman interviews Dennis Fiorilli, the Director of Product Excellence at Sherwin Williams, about a product called Loxon Concrete Masonry Coating. The conversation revolves around the challenges of painting stucco homes and the traditional belief that stucco should not be painted. Dennis…
Today's topic is a frequently asked question about home inspections in Minnesota. In short, no. Home inspectors do not need to be licensed in Minnesota. Those cheeseheads in Wisconsin require licensing, but we don't. It has always been this way in Minnesota, and I hope it stays this way. Yep,…
In this episode, Reuben and Tessa share stories about storm damage and water problems in their homes. Reuben talks about door knockers who claimed hail damage on his roof, but he discovered that the damage was not significant enough to warrant an insurance claim. Tessa shares her experience with a…
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Unnecessary roof replacements are out of control, and they're driving homeowners insurance rates sky-high in Minnesota. Everyone needs to take a chill pill when it comes to roof replacements. From a home inspection perspective, here's how it affects me: We inspect a home, we say the roof is in…
In this episode, Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murry interview Michael from Standard Water about helical piers. They discuss the process of stabilizing homes using helical piers, the different applications for helical piers, and the cost associated with the installation. They also touch on the benefits of helical piers for decks…
While cruising through my local Home Depot the other day, I stopped and did a double-take in the smoke alarm section. Almost all of the smoke alarms had been replaced with a single model: the Kidde Detect. Do you see what I'm seeing? They come in many options, such…
In this episode, Reuben and Tessa are joined by Steve Grohn, owner of Standard Water, who shares his expertise on basement waterproofing and other related services and they discuss basement water issues and the importance of proper drainage. They also address common misconceptions and scams in the industry, emphasizing the…
In this episode, Skip Walker joins Reuben and Tessa to discuss the current state of smoke alarms and the standards that govern their manufacturing. They delve into the UL 217 standard and the challenges of updating it. They also explore the role of manufacturers in the standards process and the…
One of the most critical parts of a home inspection is the structural part, and we're frequently asked about exactly what this entails. Home inspection standards of practice don't clearly define what this means, so I can understand why people want to know about this. The short and sweet answer…
In this episode, Reuben and Tessa are joined by Tim Molgren from Woodlands Insurance Group focuses on the insurance problems in Minnesota and the changes happening in the industry. The main topics discussed include the increase in insurance premiums due to severe weather events and rising construction costs, the introduction…
It's perfectly acceptable to install a high-efficiency furnace with one pipe. Just flip through the pages of any high-efficiency furnace installation manual, and you'll find the answer. I'm blogging about this because many homeowners have asked me about it. And now the rest of the story. Why Two Pipes…
In this episode, Reuben and Tessa discuss various topics, including their summer experiences, illnesses, and home updates. They also discuss the challenges of finding contractors and the shortage of skilled trade workers. Reuben shares some interesting findings from recent home inspections, including corroded galvanized water pipes and structural issues in…
Attention Home Inspectors: The IEB Summer Mastermind is coming up on August 2nd. Details here: https://events.iebcoaching.com/IEBSummerMastermind2024#/ In this episode of the Structure Talk podcast, Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murray discuss dryer ducts and the importance of fire safety. They cover the materials and thickness required for dryer ducts, the size…
4-Point Inspections At Structure Tech, we offer comprehensive 4-point inspections exclusively for insurance purposes. Our inspections cover the essential systems critical for insurance assessments: What's Included in a 4-point inspection? Electrical System: Inspection of electrical panels, wiring, outlets, and switches. Plumbing System: Inspection of pipes, fixtures, water heaters, and drainage…
I constantly see the rules about dryer duct safety and dryer transition ducts being brought into question, mostly on home inspector forums. If it's tough for home inspectors to keep this stuff straight, it's gotta be really tough for average homeowners. Products and rules are always changing, so if you…
Attention Home Inspectors: The IEB Summer Mastermind is coming up on August 2nd. Details here: https://events.iebcoaching.com/IEBSummerMastermind2024#/ In this episode, Reuben and Tessa discuss repairing ungrounded three-prong outlets. They explain the importance of testing three-prong outlets and the dangers of ungrounded outlets. They discuss the different options for updating two-prong outlets…
Bryan is fascinated by materials and mechanics… especially how wood, steel, copper, and sweat come together to make a home. As a child, he took apart & reassembled anything he could: his Speak & Spell, the kitchen faucet, and eventually cars and appliances. He holds two design patents. His housing…
Buying a home in Saint Louis Park? I have some helpful information for you about the home inspection. Our company is based in Saint Louis Park and we've inspected over 1,200 homes here in the last decade alone. Point-of-Sale Inspections Before a home is sold in Saint Louis Park (SLP),…
In today’s episode, Reuben, Tessa, and Pat discuss heat pumps and their use in heating and cooling homes. They discuss the different types of heat pumps, including air-to-air and air-to-water systems, and the advantages of using heat pumps, such as energy efficiency and reduced fossil fuel emissions. Overall, they highlight…
Casement windows, aka crank-out windows, often fail where the hardware connects to the sash. The wood takes on water, the wood gets soft, and the screws holding the hardware in place come loose. When this happens, the windows don't crank open and shut properly. The image below shows an example…
In today’s episode, Reuben and Tessa discuss their recent experiences with house-sitting and caring for pets. They also discuss their participation in outdoor activities like disc golf and the Tough Mudder. The main topic of the conversation is about dishwashers and the use of double traps. Reuben shares his findings…
Here in the Twin Cities metro area, running a separate water line for unsoftened cold water to the kitchen is standard procedure. I don't like it, and I think this trend should change. But that's just my opinion. When I used to live in Minneapolis, this was a non-issue.…
In this podcast, Reuben and Tessa discuss the problems with chimneys and the venting of exhaust gases from appliances. It highlights the issues with older masonry chimneys and the need for proper venting with more efficient appliances. They also discuss the importance of chimney liners for gas appliances in older…
There are a million ways to plumb a sink drain incorrectly, and it's almost always the result of ignorance. It's not stupidity or malice; it's just a lack of knowledge. And most of the time, these improper installations work pretty ok as long as they don't leak. As home inspectors,…
Ungrounded three-prong outlets are a very common defect found on home inspections of old houses. Thankfully, repairing this issue is not a huge deal, and today, I'll walk through the different repair options. Disclaimer: this blog post gives an overview of how to repair an ungrounded three-prong outlet. This is…
In this podcast, Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murry discuss their allergy experiences and the necessity of maintaining healthy indoor air quality. They move on to the major topic of deck safety, emphasizing the importance of correct attachment to the house as the leading cause of deck collapse. They refer to…
I've used a dishwasher the wrong way for most of my life. I used to scrape and rinse my dishes before putting them into the dishwasher, which was a waste of time and heated water. Thanks to my two teenagers, who do most of the dishwasher chores in my…
In this episode, Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murry cover various topics related to home inspections, attic access, and home inspectors' challenges. It also delves into the importance of accessing attics and crawl spaces during home inspections and the impact of contractual obligations on the inspection process. The conversation covers the…
In this conversation, Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murry interview Neil Carlson, a public health specialist with expertise in indoor air quality and mold. They discuss various mold-related topics, including its causes, identification, and remediation. Neil shares insights into his work in commercial and residential buildings, highlighting common problem areas such…
The guts of your toilet need to be properly installed to avoid a cross-connection between the water in your toilet tank and the water you drink. If you're selling a house in Minneapolis and don't have this little detail correct, the city will require repair as part of their Truth…
Discharging your sump pump into the city's sanitary sewer system is bad news. While this might seem like an easier and more attractive option than running a discharge tube from the sump pump to the exterior, it's illegal in most cities here in Minnesota when the home is connected to…
In this conversation, Reuben and Tessa discuss their professional mentors and influencers. Reuben talks about his dad, who taught him construction and home inspections, and Dwayne Erickson, a colleague who taught him to be curious and observant. Tessa mentions Pat Hellman, a building science expert who taught her about risk…
Sealed attic access panels are a bane to home inspectors. Nothing about home inspections causes more consternation than 'sealed' attic access panels; not just for the home inspector, but also for the buyer, the seller, and the real estate agents involved in the sale. Here at Structure Tech, we've worked…
In this today’s episode, Reuben and Tessa are joined by Eric Larsen to discuss mold testing and inspection. They cover topics such as national standards and credentials for mold inspection, the importance of certifications, the different types of mold tests, and the limitations of mold testing. They also touch on…
In this episode of the Structure Talk podcast, Reuben Saltzman and Tessa Murry are joined by Eric Larson and Jaden Ghylin to discuss the impact of mold on homeowners. Jaden shares his personal experience of discovering mold in his newly built home and the health issues it caused for him…
We frequently get emailed the same series of questions from potential clients of ours. The exact. Same. Questions. I started wondering where people were getting this information, so I did a Google search for questions to ask your home inspector. I found a ton of them, and they were all pretty…
In this episode of the Structure Talk podcast, Reuben and Tessa discuss gas leaks and how to detect and document them during home inspections. They talk about the different tools and methods used to find gas leaks, including electronic gas detectors and liquid soap. They emphasize the importance of only…
In this conversation, Reuben and Tessa discuss various home improvement projects that Reuben has undertaken, highlighting both successful and unsuccessful experiences. Reuben shares stories about remodeling his story and a half house, including a catastrophic water leak, as well as his bathroom remodel hacks. He also talks about installing a…
In this episode, Reuben and Tessa discuss spring maintenance for homeowners. They cover topics such as gutter maintenance, gutter guards, downspout extensions, and sump pump discharge. They emphasize the importance of keeping gutters clean and ensuring that water is directed away from the house to prevent water damage and basement…
From the early 1980s until the mid-1990s, many homes across the country were plumbed with plastic tubing called polybutylene, aka PB. It looks like PEX tubing, can have similar crimp rings at the fittings, and is installed in a very similar manner. All was good with this stuff... until it…
In this episode, our hosts are joined by Tom Harris, a spray foam insulation expert, who discusses the topic of hot roofs and the proper installation of spray foam insulation. He explains the concept of hot roofs, where the thermal boundary is moved to the roof deck, and the different…
In last week's blog post on transite heat, I explained that most sub-slab ductwork is not transite. It's not transite heat, it's not transite ductwork, and it should not be labeled as such unless the ductwork is actually made from transite. If it is, that means it contains asbestos. The biggest concern…