Reuben Saltzman

Chimney Repairs: Hire a CSIA Certified Chimney Sweep®, not a Hack with a Trowel

I don’t get hired to re-inspect chimney repairs often, but when I do, I’m often disgusted.  Here’s how it works: the home inspector says the chimney needs repair, and the buyer tells the seller to fix the chimney.  The sellers usually hire the cheapest chimney repair contractor they can find… and it’s usually an unqualified hack with a trowel.

Just as there is a big difference in the quality of work between home inspectors, there is a similar gap in the quality of work between good chimney contractors and hacks.  I’d like to share a couple of our recent encounters with these chimney hacks.

The $214 Chimney Re-Build

I inspected a home in Saint Louis Park that had a chimney with bricks that were disintegrating, and in need of major repair.

Disintegrating chimney bricks

Here’s what I wrote in my inspection report:

The bricks at the chimney were literally falling apart. They were disintegrating and allowing water in to the chimney,which will hasten their deterioration. I suspect the bricks used at the chimney weren’t the right type. Have the upper portion of the chimney re-built. This will be a major expense.

The buyer went back to the seller asking for the chimney to be repaired, and the seller hired someone to fix it… for $214.  That’s a fraction of what I was guessing it would cost, so when the buyer learned what the seller paid for the repairs, he was rightfully suspicious and hired me to go back out.  The photo below shows what I found:

Hack chimney repair

I know what you’re thinking – either “that’s the same picture!” or “where’s the duct tape?”, right?  If you click on either of the photos for a larger view, you’ll notice that in the second photo, someone simply slapped some mortar on the chimney; they didn’t fix it.  This chimney still needs repair.

The Disintegrating Chimney Crown

I inspected a home in Minneapolis with a chimney that had recently been rebuilt.  The chimney walls looked great… but the crown was literally falling apart, due to a poor mix of concrete.

Disintegrating chimney crown 1Disintegrating chimney crown 2Disintegrating chimney crown 3Disintegrating chimney crown 4

Unfortunately, the entire crown will need to be redone.  Hopefully someone will go with a better mix of concrete, and a better design of crown as well.  To read about the differences in chimney crown designs, click here Tops to Last a Lifetime.

The Dry Stack

Neil inspected a home in Minneapolis where the clay tiles had been stacked together without any mortar between the joints.

Gap in fireplace flue

In order to be safe for use, the chimney liner must contain all products of combustion, which means every joint needs to be tightly mortared.  Neil told the buyer that this was an improperly constructed chimney that should be repaired.

The buyer hired a CSIA Certified Chimney Sweep to give an estimate on the repair; it was approximately $8,000.  The seller had someone else come out, who happened to be a mason and volunteer firefighter, who said the missing mortar wasn’t a concern.  Pardon me?  A volunteer firefighter does not a forensic fire investigator make.  I’ll trust the chimney expert, as well as the building code, which says “Clay flue liners shall be laid in medium-duty refractory mortar conforming to ASTM C 199 with tight mortar joints left smooth on the inside…”

Hopefully I’ve made my point. There are a lot of hacks with trowels that claim to be chimney experts.  There are three local companies that I’ve had firsthand experience with and recommend regularly: Jack Pixley Chimney Sweeps and Masonry, London Chimney Sweeps, and 2nd Generation Chimneys.  One thing that they all have in common is that they’re all CSIA Certified Chimney Sweeps.  If you’re looking for a high quality chimney contractor in your area, you would do well to start at www.CSIA.org.  They have a zip code search right on their home page.

Reuben Saltzman, Structure Tech Home Inspections – Email– Home Inspector Minneapolis

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No responses to “Chimney Repairs: Hire a CSIA Certified Chimney Sweep®, not a Hack with a Trowel”

  1. Michael Harrell
    August 2, 2011, 11:47 pm

    a missing link here is a buyer’s agent who can take your information and condense it into a properly and specifically written Notification of Inspection Issues. If all the agent writes is “fix the chimney” the agent needs to go back to school. It’s the agent’s job to take the Inspector’s information and draft a notice to the seller that specifies what the buyer wants to have happen.

  2. Reuben Saltzman
    August 3, 2011, 4:06 am

    I agree, it’s important for the agent to be specific with their requests. In this particular case, the buyer’s agent had specified having the upper portion of the chimney re-built, and that clearly wasn’t done.

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    August 16, 2011, 3:49 am

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  4. Tim Wheeler
    March 3, 2013, 7:19 pm

    Here in the Seattle area we seem to have the same type of problems, when it comes to home owner trying to just get the chimney pasted through an inspection. Not caring if the work was done right or not. Do to the amount of rain we get it’s not long before the new owner is wondering why the chimney is letting in buckets of water. Or even worst why did my chimney flues catch fire?

  5. gwhavens
    November 5, 2013, 4:41 pm

    I believe there’s an alternative. It involves the process of lining the chimney interior with a refractory slurry (?) made to adhere to the chimney structure by pulling a balloon up and through. Might be wrong on this.

  6. Reuben Saltzman
    November 24, 2013, 2:33 pm

    @gwhavens – David Pixley of 2nd Generation Chimneys had a problem leaving a response here, and asked me to post a reply to your question:

    “There are two major problems with the spray-in liners. The most obvious is you’re reducing the inside diameter of the flue by up to 1″. The concern I have with this is making sure you have adequate draft and the required 1 to 10 ratio needed between the firebox opening and the flue. The next problem is our extreme climate change here in Minnesota. (freeze & thaw) Condensation builds up in the flue and over a 2-3 year time frame the coating starts to flake away from the existing tiles. I know in warmer climates some of my colleagues are having more success.

    Thanks,
    David Pixley”

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